Use Your Opportunities to Benefit Everyone
with Athlete and Entrepreneur Chase Griffin
How can you use your opportunities to benefit everyone?
In this episode of How We Future, Lisa talks with Chase Griffin, former quarterback at UCLA, 2x NIL Male Athlete of the Year, and a leading voice in the evolution of college athletics.
Chase shares how he learned to navigate moments of change—from NIL to civic engagement—by centering and designing for collective value. Together, they explore how leadership can happen from inside systems you didn’t create, and how athletes (and non-athletes alike) can turn personal opportunity into shared impact.
This conversation is a course on turning influence into impact, and “me” into “we.”
In this episode, we explore:
Lessons from being early in the NIL era—and why preparation mattered more than luck
How to structure partnerships that create real community benefit
Why athlete voices are often missing from conversations about college sports and Chase is changing that
This week, maybe reflect on where in your own life you can redesign success so it benefits more than just you.
If this episode resonated with you, leave a comment or review and share it with someone who’s navigating change—or creating it—from the inside.
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Chase Griffin: If you want something done, give it to a busy person. The athletes are the most busy people I know. I think between diligence, between follow-through, between having to endure physical, emotional, mental pain and push through and be excellent in your field of play, athletes are ready for pretty much any task you can throw our way.
Lisa Kay Solomon: I'm Lisa Kay Solomon, and this is How We Future, where I talk to some of my favorite changemakers about shaping tomorrow, starting today.
Today's episode is a lesson on recognizing new opportunities early and using them to create value for more than just yourself. Chase Griffin first came on my radar when he was a quarterback at UCLA, and I was immediately so impressed by how he was already thinking beyond the field.
Chase has been at the forefront of some of the most important shifts in college athletics, civic engagement, and athlete voting initiatives, the emergence of name, image, and likeness, or NIL to the insiders, and reimagining what it means for athletes to create value both for themselves and for their communities.
Today, we talk about how to create change from inside big systems and ways to shift outcomes from me to we. If you're enjoying How We Future, you can go deeper on these ideas on our Substack, where we share reflections, behind-the-scenes insights, and additional resources from each episode. You can find the link in our show notes. Let's get into it with Chase Griffin.
Chase: Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited.
Lisa: Let's go back to when you were at UCLA, a quarterback. First of all, I know you went into college with so much ambition and promise. Maybe we could even start with why you chose UCLA, because I know you've been very vocal and outspoken about looking for a community that matched your values. Maybe we could start even with that question.
Chase: 100%. I think while we're on the topic of UCLA, I have to give a shout out. We're all repping UCLA women's basketball right now for going out there and getting number 126 for us. Shout out them. As far as my decision in choosing UCLA, a lot of my early offers were from really great institutions like Harvard and Yale. I felt like if I was passing on such academic institutions like that for a more cumulative athletic experience, that it also had to be a great academic institution as well. UCLA had that.
In addition to that, had a history of athletes, and in particular, Black athletes going on to shape different things in their communities, shape their sports, what being an athlete can be. I felt like having the privilege of playing at the same university as a Jackie Robinson, as a Jackie Joyner-Kersee, as a Flo-Jo, as an Arthur Ashe, as a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, as a Ralph Bunche. I could go on and on. It was just a great opportunity. On top of that, just as far as the materialism, as soon as I came to the campus, I was like, "This is where I'm supposed to be." To have that opportunity to go there, I still consider it a huge blessing.
Lisa: It's incredible what can happen when you put yourself in an environment that helps you become the best version of yourself. You are already a pretty fantastic version going into UCLA, and the fact that you went in there with that clarity of perspective and purpose. One of the things, Chase, that I really want to continue to probe and talk to you about is this lens that you have, which is like me to we.
Even that description is how you talk about, "I came in as a quarterback and an athlete, but it wasn't just about me, it was about we. It was about the team, and it was about the legacy that came before me." I've seen you do that again and again and again, not only with organizations or teams that exist, but putting new ones on the map. We'll get to that in a minute. Can you talk a little bit about where that orientation comes from? I know you had it as a very young kid.
Chase: Yes. I think part of being a quarterback is that way. You only thrive if your offensive line thrives. You only thrive if your receivers thrive or your running back thrives. You go as the offense goes, and the offense goes as you go. That was always my saying when I was in high school, everybody eats. If there's a receiver that has 1,500 yards, that means I threw him 1,500 yards. If there's a running back who's going off, it's because they're respecting the pass game.
Just the team nature of football, and in particular, being cognizant of that nature of that sport as a quarterback is important. I think beyond that, just religiously, if you're a Christian, you believe in servant leadership. I try to strive each and every day to live by love and to do things in a way that reflects my love for people and my love for having the opportunity to do cool things.
Chase: Well, you never shy away, it seems, from an opportunity to do cool things and to lift up others in the process. I know, early on, you had believe as a value in your public persona that seems to really be integral to how you think about what's possible and the choices that you make. You were at UCLA during a pretty rocky time in the world. 2020 pandemic, following the murder of George Floyd, and also a rocky time for athletics.
I want to talk about a little bit of things you chose to do amid both of those that, again, I think speaks to your values in action. Maybe starting with the first, I know you were really instrumental in getting athletes to be more civically engaged. Of course, that's how you and I met. By the time we met, you were already leading the charge on getting athletes to get involved in the process, in voting, can you talk a little bit about how that came to be?
Chase: 100%. I think when COVID shut everything down, I had a really unique perspective as an athlete. A, I think athletes at UCLA were the only people on campus. We were also the only student voices that were actually living on campus. I think beyond that, it was an election year. It was very charged, both pre-2020 and post-2020, politically, socially, et cetera. I wanted to vote, and I wanted my peers to vote, no matter how they voted. I just think that as athletes to be able to participate in that, that was a really cool opportunity.
I began working with the athletic department on figuring out how we gamify, create a competition around team-to-team registration and team-to-team voting numbers. We had, I think, over seven teams get to 100% registration. The majority of teams got to 90% registration. We registered almost the entire athlete body to vote. A lot of those athletes followed through to voting. No matter how they voted, I think it was about participating. Especially for athletes, because of our age at the time, that was a lot of our first presidential election that we were voting in. It just set a great precedent.
I think one of the beautiful things about college is you get there from your parents' house, or you get there from your guardian's house, and you spend your time there to learn how to build your own house. In that, you also learn your habits. I think civic engagement is a habit that I was able to develop during my time in college. As my platform grew, I was able to partner with great folks like you at All Vote No Play, which is now a team, or other organizations. I was able to learn how I could add to the world in a way that benefited the communities that I really care about.
Lisa: I'm just struck by, it's like, "Hey, we don't just want to get young people to vote. I'm going to go to the athletic department and turn it into a competition, or I'm going to find new partnerships or resources to get behind." Do you remember what some of those early conversations were like and how you got them to be on board with a new approach?
Chase: It was a student organization initiative from the jump. I think I have to give a lot of credit to BruinsVote, which is an on-campus student group at UCLA that had already been doing a great job with this work with the general student body, but hadn't been as focused on getting athletes involved. I think whatever is the best thing on campus, it gets superpowered once you get athletes involved.
Just because athletes are very diligent, they know how to follow through. Then, in this day and age, they have really large platforms, and they can help bolster what their fellow students are trying to do on campus by bringing more attention to it. I felt like BruinsVote did a great job with what they already did. We helped bring that similar model to athletes and to the athletic department, and then added our own spin on it to make it really attractive to athletes to participate in.
Lisa: Chase, I think the way you're describing it is something I've been thinking a lot about around helping more people understand the power of futures thinking and the power of action, of agency, and this idea that futures thinking allows you to envision a new possible future, and then the agency allows you to bring it to life. A big part of that, I believe, is noticing and building on what is fixed and designing around what is flexible.
What I hear in that example is like, "Look, we know athletes have a lot of leverage. We also know that there's a lot of activity among the Bruin votes. How do we design engagement between us to maximize where we want to go?" I think that is a huge superpower of yours to take a look at what are the current structures and what could exist on top of that, and how you facilitate, basically, a value creation engine that lifts all boats.
Chase: I think that's athlete's MO. How do we create value?
Lisa: That's a good segue to talk about, I think, the next huge lever of futures enabling, even really futures possibility that you put on the board. We talked about as you were a quarterback, there was a lot happening in the world, but there was also a lot happening in college athletics in a slightly smaller circle. We had NIL, name, image, likeness, for those that are not following the college athletics quite as closely as we might be. We had a lot of shifts in what athletes could do with their eligibility.
Chase, you were very, very early in really diving into this new market, this new ability to create value. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about your NIL journey. I think we will, of course, highlight that you are two-time male NIL athlete of the year, which is unheard of in many ways, and yet so awesome to celebrate because of some of the choices that you did with this emerging marketplace. I wonder if you could share a little bit about what that was like for you.
Chase: I think I can't really talk about NIL without mentioning a really great Bruin, Ed O'Bannon, and what he did in leading the crusade for athletes' rights in the collegiate sports space and sacrificing his own social goodwill for a number of years before public tide changed on how NIL was viewed sentiment-wise. I think a lot of my success regarding NIL was timing. It goes back to some of the prior guests you had mentioned, talked about how to turn luck into something that's actionable. I think a lot of it came down to just being prepared for when the opportunity was there.
When I chose UCLA, I didn't have any idea of what NIL could be. I didn't even think that I would be able to partake in those rights during my time at UCLA. I chose UCLA because of school and football, where I was at, all of that opportunity. Once you throw NIL into the mix, for athletes who have always viewed their identity as being larger than their game or their position and the ability to create value and create value-add for them, their communities, for entrepreneurial efforts, NIL was a battery in my back. I was at, I think, the best place, the best school to take advantage of branded NIL when it came to brands looking for what 19- or 20-year-old kid in their eyes they wanted to work with.
I already had a wealth of media experience from my time playing in Texas high school football. I was doing everything right off the field and then on the field the season before NIL. I played a lot that year, and I had the highest pass rating in the Pac-12, according to PFF. When brands were looking for the first to work with, I was at the top of a lot of those lists, and I delivered. I got better and better over time.
I learned the different value creation models that work for different athletes, and I found one that worked for me, which was defining myself as a believer, a winner, and provider, embodying that in everything that I did, and then working with brands that reflected that. On top of that, those were my personal values.
Then I created economic value through the deals and learned how to negotiate well and structure deals, both as a producer and as talent. Then I learned how to take those to community value, which is really at the precipice of how I continued working with y'all at All Vote No Play and then the team. How do I take the money that was made, the goodwill, the PR of a certain deal, maybe a partnership with a brand, and turn it into something that benefits, whether it's schoolchildren or after-school programs, community value?
Lisa: I just saw you do that time and time again, this idea of like, okay, there's a transaction to be made. There's a brand that wants to invest in you because you're an incredible spokesperson, you're thoughtful, you're talented, incredibly charismatic. I could go on and on. Chase, you would take that opportunity and say, "Well, how could we also turn this into a we?" I know that a lot of your deals were about community engagement in addition to your voting, but how do we get this brand to support this community that doesn't always get the attention that it needs or doesn't always get the funding that it needs?
Time and time again, you shifted that me to we. Again, I wonder if you could just even share a couple of those examples or what that experience was like because if we think about it, NIL was pretty new, and it still is pretty new in many ways. This idea of like, "Hey, it doesn't have to be single brand to individual. We can actually reconfigure this to be more of a communal value creation lever."
Chase: My favorite deal as far as creating community value was my deal with Boost Mobile where they matched the donation that I did to the LA Regional Food Bank. Out of that deal, I donated $2,500 to the LAUSD Backpack program, and the Boost Mobile team brought in their nonprofit side to match that donation.
It was just an example of how I was following what I wanted to do. Because of that partnership, I think it helped inspire on the corporate side them giving to a cause that I really cared about. It may not have been a partnership that would have ever been formed had it not been for that deal. I think it was just a great example of how private motivations and entrepreneurial nature can also be utilized to create public betterment and create community value for everyone.
Lisa: I love that example, Chase. It reminds me of, I certainly know, a stat that they track in basketball. I don't know if it's also true in football, but that idea of a net positive player. When this player's on the court, everybody does better. I feel like that's the way you operate. It's like when you do deals, everybody benefits. Including this idea that here you are, you're 20, you're 21, and you get to dictate or at least strongly co-create the terms of the deal. I just think that is so powerful, and I'm so grateful that you did it early on in the NIL trajectory so that others can be like, "Wait a minute, I have choice. I can look at this in a wider lens than just how much can I get for this one deal."
Chase: Absolutely. It's the way athletes already operate in the field of play and applying ourselves that way to our brand deals or how we are entrepreneurially. I think as time goes on to our campuses, both community engagement and entrepreneurially for these campuses, you're going to see athletes continue to deliver on this front.
Lisa: I hope so. I know, again, you're continuing to participate and lead the way, in part because of your experience, your own experience with NIL. I know you started something really novel called The Athlete's Bureau, really trying to lift all boats for other athletes. Tell us a little bit about The Athlete's Bureau.
Chase: The Athlete's Bureau is a newsletter created by us, for us, our audience, our athletes, our folks that care about athletes. All of our writers are staff from college campuses. They understand how integral athletes are to the college campus ecosystem. It's from the perspective of me. It's from the perspective of our guests. It's from the perspective of folks that are paying attention to college athletics and want it to continue to be a bright spot in our nation. I'm very excited to announce that we're bringing it back full-scale. We're going to really focus on it this year. I appreciate that segue.
Lisa: I love it. No, we're so excited to share with more. Again, I love, at every step, you're like, "How can the folks that are most involved have a seat at the table, have a say, help pioneer new pathways forward in ways that are co-creative and really enacting some of these new possibilities?" I always feel like there's an open field. Why not put good stuff out there? I know, Chase, you were so forward-thinking in your approach that you even got called to Congress to testify. I wonder if you could talk about that experience. What was it like to prepare? What was it like to be in that room?
Chase: Absolutely. I'm still grateful for that experience. I'm grateful for hopefully the impact that it had on legislation at that time or lack of legislation at that time. I was invited there by Congresswoman Trahan, her team, and Senator Murphy's team. I had provided a quote on a bill that they had done a year prior. That had been my first foray talking with legislators about what NIL was, the impact that it had on the everyday college athlete, the impact that it had on my college athlete life, and the impacts past just whatever were the sensationalist headline reads coming out in whatever newsletter article was attempting to cover college sports at the time.
In that interaction with the legislative body, realized the athlete voice is often muted. It was the thesis even beforehand for The Athlete's Bureau to actually have an athletes' voice and athletes' perspective in stories that were covering athletes' lives. It seems very intuitive, but it was not the case and still continues to be a struggle in how media covers college athletics and NIL in particular.
During that time, I was saying this is a young market, and I still feel the same way now. This is a young market of entrepreneurial athletes, of entrepreneurial college students, and they are adding value to college athletics. College athletics is more watched than ever. It's more consumed than ever. People feel more strongly about their team, more strongly about their players than ever. TV ratings show that, media deals show that.
Any legislation that's crafted has to keep in mind, this is a time and this is an innovation, a legitimization of the business that has made money for everybody, athletes included. Any legislation that hinders that, I think, goes against the basic principles of the free market economy.
Lisa: What's so powerful about that perspective is you're really diving into a space of agency and of shaping the future. Recognizing first and foremost, I appreciate your stance, they may not know. Going into Congress to, first of all, help educate them, to give them awareness about, what is this regulation or this new market that's evolving? What is the impact it has on individuals? What could it look like at the market level? I think it speaks to what you're talking about earlier, that you've had many years of practicing putting a point of view out there, which is incredibly courageous.
I know you've written a lot of op-eds about your experience at UCLA, about why it matters for athletes to step up. It reminds me a little bit, as I said earlier, of a conversation we had with Tina Seelig around capturing your own luck. One of her perspectives is that luck is the long game. Here you are playing the long game. I didn't quite know. I imagine that high school quarterback Chase Griffin might not have imagined actually getting invited to Congress to speak on behalf of your passion, but all of those reps made you ready when the invitation came to have that kind of impact.
Chase: If you want something done, give it to a busy person. Athletes are the most busy people I know. I think between diligence, between follow through, between having to endure physical, emotional, mental pain, and push through and be excellent in your field of play, athletes are ready for pretty much any task you can throw our way.
Lisa: Well, I'm a huge believer in that. Unfortunately, the system doesn't always help athletes see themselves that way. I think one of the things that you're doing is helping them see themselves as holistic leaders to make a difference and to ensure that they're at the center of these decisions, not necessarily on the receiving end of somebody else's legislation or policy.
I know you're no longer playing, but you are now continuing to really, again, pioneer new ground. You really have an almost manifesto where you have sports, entertainment, media, creator economy, college athletics converging into one asset class, really thinking beyond the silos. Tell us a little bit about how you're envisioning this and what's been unfolding.
Chase: I think during my time as talent in college, I had the ability to consult for a lot of different types of companies. Whether that be ad agencies like Uniworld, talent management/agencies like RANGE Media, working with great financial institutions like JPMorgan Chase, or University of California Investments, where I work now, I was able to build a perspective both as a student, both as a participant, both as an operator, and now as an investor. I was able to learn what it meant like to be on both sides of the value creation, both the person investing into a model and the person who was playing in that model or doing talent work in that model.
I think what I came out with was a thesis that in a world where media is extremely important, and I think the next frontier, in addition to AI, sports content is probably at the heart of that media. It's the cornerstone of broadcast, and it continues to be attractive to streaming. There's few things that happen worldwide that are more integral to people's daily lives, for right or wrong, than sports. You ask a person who they are, they might say, one, their religion or creed. Two, their position in family, whether they're a father, mother, wife, husband, et cetera. Three, fan of the Lakers, they're fan of the Bruins.
That's a really unique tie to identity that sports just has. I think a lot of people's heroes growing up were athletes. I think even behind me, I have Muhammad Ali right here, who I think is the quintessential athlete when it came to being the best in their sport and one of the most famous people on earth and someone that cared deeply about the communities they care about and was not afraid to share how they felt about it.
Athletes have lasting impressions. Sports has lasting impression on how society looks, how it interacts with each other. It is one of the few things that I think people on a daily basis show their love for. To be able to work in that as an athlete and now work in there as an ambassador, I consider it a huge blessing. I see the opportunities are endless.
Lisa: That speaks to your incredibly positive posture towards the future of really seeing what's possible. I agree with you, as you know, I think sports are one of the few places where we're coming together in beautiful ways. We can cheer together and we can recover. The thing about sports is somebody usually loses and we're still okay the next day. We're able to move beyond, and I think the best of us take some of those opportunities to continue to learn.
I think the work that we've done together, certainly to help athletes invest in beyond just the performance of the moment, getting involved in their community civic engagement, it's resilient for them. It's good for their mental health as well. At every level, at the individual level, at the team level, at the organizational level, at the community level, it's resilient, it's robust. As you're really pioneering, it's value creation. We can really create value here where it doesn't have to be exploitative in some of the old models, but it can really be generative in that way.
I just think that's incredibly exciting. Would love to hear even more now that you are, as you said, on the investing side, no longer on the field, but certainly cheering and pioneering new pathways for those on the field. What have been some other lessons that you've carried forward in this new role?
Chase: I think, every athlete, once they transition to the professional world, start to understand that their lives were not normal before. I'm often surprised with how much time I have on my hands nowadays because I'm not working 110-hour workweeks. It's really nice to show up to work or show up to a meeting and my body's not hurting, or my body's not aching.
I think the first thing is just adjusting to having more time, having more freedom, and also recognizing how the values that you learned as far as being a team player and a leader or a follower are extremely valuable in how diligent you can be as a worker or someone who is a bright spot to the people that you work with and the partners that you create through your business.
I htink another thing that I've learned is there's no such thing as just business, it's all personal. It's all relationship-oriented when it comes to deals. You're going to get the deal if you have a good relationship. You're going to feel more comfortable working with partners that you actually trust. You're going to find more opportunities where you feel welcome. Creating an environment and creating a business or partnerships that reflect who you are, similar to how I approached NIL, are ways that I approach my current job and where I think a lot of athletes who excel well in the professional space adjust as well.
Lisa: Really taking the lessons that they learned along the way and carrying it forward, perhaps in new environments. I do think, Chase, it's been a long time since I played college athletics from my long time ago tennis years. I do, just picking up on what you said, just really see the students that I have that are athletes, they're just maxed out. It's a full-time job to be an athlete, plus a full-time student, plus, plus, plus. Now, of course, certainly in some conferences, they're spending so much time on the road, and just stretch so thin, they don't always have the chance or the opportunity to really go deep on their values.
I wonder if you could share maybe some advice that you had earlier or some practices that you did perhaps during your playing years that allowed you to have the clarity that you do, because I think it's not a given. You make it sound so easy, and you have so much clarity, but I know a lot of the athletes that I have the privilege of working with feel really stretched, and they're really wondering, who am I beyond my sport?
Chase: I think I can speak to it because I've been through the rain, for lack of better words. My freshman year at UCLA was really tough. I got there with a broken wrist. Immediately, I was the quarterback from Texas who could really throw, wasn't able to throw. In school, was adjusting well. I was performing well. It was my first time away from home. Living situation was different. Went from my own room, sharing a bathroom with my sister, to a triple with no bathroom, no AC, with two other guys that I'm still very cool with to this day.
Made it through that, and then really got to a point where I felt like, "Am I going to play at UCLA? I chose here because I wanted to go to the NFL." It was my first season not getting playing reps. Once COVID shut everything down and I went back home for a few months, I recentered myself, said, "What am I about? What do I want to accomplish?"
I say that the main thing that made me feel energized was I felt like I got back to myself and I felt like I gained perspective. Perspective is really something that's impossible to have at 18 or 19. I remember my parents having similar conversations to me at the time. I'm like, "Man, I'm sharp. I'm handling business. I'm on scholarship. You all aren't paying my bills," perspective. Compared to me now at 25, I didn't have perspective at 18 or 19. God willing, when I'm 30, I feel the same way about my perspective at 25.
I think that's part of having a growth mindset and believing, with each year, I get wiser. Having the perspective that you are winning already. If you were to tell your 5-year-old or 10-year-old self, "Man, you'll be playing whatever sport you play at whatever university you play," you'd be like, "Man, I'm living the dream. I get to play a sport every day. I get to stay in shape. I get to stay healthy. I have coaches who are dedicated to making my team win. I get to endure and grow and get better at something with people who hopefully will be my friends for a lifetime."
There are very few, if any, opportunities similar like that, not just in this country, but in this world that have all of those factors together. Enjoy that four or five, or in my case, six years that you're playing on a college campus. During that time, I think the more you enjoy it, you'll be an opportunist and you'll see more opportunities.
This is a time where, as an athlete, you have more freedom and ability to do things entrepreneurially, community-oriented, or if you just want to lock in on your sport, dedicate yourself. Figure out what it means to dedicate yourself for hours and hours on end at being great at something. None of it is in vain. I don't want to preach just because I think there's still a lot for me to learn. I'm still learning how to transition this into the professional world. For an athlete on campus, if you count it all joy and look at it as the coolest thing in the world, which it is, it makes the tougher times a little bit easier to endure.
Lisa: Such wise advice, and also filled with so much humility about the growth journeys that we're all on. You're reminding me of a very early guest we had on How We Future, my dear friend, Rae Ringel, leadership coach. She reminded us that for now is not forever. As a moment of just honoring where you are and where you could be and what you can really gain if you have a different perspective, and one that you certainly have, Chase, that I'm so inspired by around having an abundance mentality.
It doesn't mean everything is always perfect or not challenging, but that ability to say, "Okay, how might we reframe this to be a moment of opportunity, a moment of experimentation, a moment of courage, a moment of clarity?" I just have so much admiration for the way that you show up. I'd love to close with hearing a little bit more about your vision for The Athlete's Bureau and how we can support you and bring about such a positive influence in athletics.
Chase: Well, thank you. First off, thank you for having me. I think for The Athlete's Bureau or TAB, we have a few cool things on the horizon. We were one of the first, if not the first, to do an athlete-to-athlete poll that surveyed athlete sentiments around NIL, how NIL was affecting our lives, how we felt about Congress, how we felt about the media, how we felt about coaches, how we trusted the institutions that are set up to give us our best opportunities as college athletes. I want to continue to bolster that.
I think the best value-add that Athlete's Bureau can add is providing the athlete voice. Then on top of that, we'll bring back our ability to bring in guests, folks who are CMOs, CEOs of companies that are providing opportunities for athletes to be entrepreneurial while they're on college campuses. I think last time we did a poll, it was featured in Congress. It was referred to as data in Congress. The sky's the limit on what we can do coming up next with our ability to reach athletes' voices and magnify them.
Lisa: Chase, one of the things I love to ask my guests when I teach my class, you from the future, and you're very much a you from the future in so many ways, is we like to ask them best advice that was ever given to them or advice that they would give to others. I feel like your voice is definitely one that I want to spread with others.
Chase: Yes. I do everything in love, literally everything. You can't go wrong.
Lisa: That is beautiful. Absolutely spectacular. Chase, thank you so much for your time today. There is so much that I took away from this around reframing the me to we possibilities, around leaning into new emergent markets like NIL with clarity of the heart of who you're serving, of how you might reorient value to be more for more as opposed to more for one, and just your incredible growth mindset and ability to create pathways for you to make a positive difference.
Listen, I started this because I wanted to put more positive leadership models out there. I'm so excited for more people to learn about you and about what you're doing, to sign up and support TAB, and to really be following your journey of what comes next. I'm so appreciative of our journey together, of knowing you, and the gift of being able to share your worldview and your success with others.
Chase: Thank you so much. God willing, I'm able to take you up on that offer one day.
Lisa: Chase, thank you for encouraging us to expand our view of who gets to benefit, who gets to participate, and who gets to have a voice. So much of what we explored in this episode isn't taught in a traditional classroom, skills like how to turn opportunity into collective impact, how to design value so it doesn't stop at you, and how to think in terms of me to we.
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Links from the episode:
The Athletes Bureau (TAB) — Chase's newsletter by athletes, for athletes
The Team — the civic engagement organization Chase partnered with during the 2020 election
https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2021/7/9/name-image-likeness.aspx